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		<title>4th Things to Consider Before Buying a Gamer Laptop: Hard Drive</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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Hard drive or hard disk is a storage part of our gamer laptop. Two things we should consider about hard drive is capacity and speed. Most gamers choose 7200rpm hard drives as these will be 33% faster than 4200rpm hard drive. Also gamer laptop should have SATA Hard Drives (Serial ATA) which gives a higher [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>Hard drive</strong> or hard disk is a storage part of our <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/4th-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-hard-drive.html" title="Gamer Laptop"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a>. Two things we should consider about hard drive is capacity and speed. Most gamers choose 7200rpm hard drives as these will be 33% faster than 4200rpm hard drive. Also <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/4th-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-hard-drive.html" title="Gamer Laptop"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a> should have SATA Hard Drives (Serial ATA) which gives a higher performance than PATA (Parallel ATA), especially for high bandwidth applications such as multi-player games. Solid State Drives (SSD) probably the future of <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/4th-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-hard-drive.html" title="Gamer Laptop"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a> but these now are very expensive. SSDs have no moving parts so they are considered more reliable than an ordinary hard drive with movable parts that can crash. For the capacity of the hard drive, recent <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/4th-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-hard-drive.html" title="Gamer Laptop"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a> are now sporting two or more hard drives which can offer up to a Terabyte of storage!<span id="more-40"></span></p>
<h3>Gamer Laptop Should Use SATA Hard Drive</h3>
<p>SATA (Serial Advanced Technology Architecture) was developed by a group of companies including Seagate, Intel, Maxtor, Dell and others. SATA transmit data in a serially as opposed to PATA or Parallel ATA which is commonly referred to as an IDE hard drive. Serial ATA hard drive use less power, which is best for <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/4th-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-hard-drive.html" title="Gamer Laptop"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a>. They are also more advanced than PATA hard drive which use multipe streams of data. But Serial Technology carries data in a single stream and is not limited to a particular clock speed, Serial transfers data packets almost 30 times faster than parallel!</p>
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		<title>3rd Things to Consider Before Buying a Gamer Laptop: Random Access Memory (RAM)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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Third important thing of the gamer laptop is RAM since it determine how fast the laptop run. At least 1GB of RAM is enough to play most games on laptop, but many gamer laptop now come with at lease 2GB or more. Amount of RAM on your gamer laptop is very important for handle heavy [...]]]></description>
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<p>Third important thing of the <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/3rd-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-random-access-memory-ram.html" title="Gamer Laptop"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a> is <strong>RAM</strong> since it determine how fast the laptop run. At least 1GB of RAM is enough to play most games on laptop, but many <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/3rd-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-random-access-memory-ram.html" title="Gamer Laptop"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a> now come with at lease 2GB or more. Amount of RAM on your <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/3rd-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-random-access-memory-ram.html" title="Gamer Laptop"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a> is very important for handle heavy graphic files or play games on your laptop. The more RAM, the more applications your laptop can handle. It&#8217;s best to get the largest amount of RAM you can afford on your <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/3rd-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-random-access-memory-ram.html" title="Gamer Laptop"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a>.<span id="more-33"></span></p>
<p>Video RAM (VRAM) is a RAM that is dedicated to handling the visuals and graphics on your <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/3rd-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-random-access-memory-ram.html" title="Gamer Laptop"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a>. This is important to play the latest 3D video games on your laptop. Video RAM is special memory that is used by graphic card on your <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/3rd-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-random-access-memory-ram.html" title="Gamer Laptop"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a>. It is different from ordinary RAM because it enabling screen updates while the video processor processes new data. Normally video RAM is more expensive than ordinary RAM.</p>
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		<title>2nd Things to Consider Before Buying a Gamer Laptop: Central Processing Unit (CPU)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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Central Processing Unit (CPU) is the processing part of the gamer laptop, or we can say it is the brain of your laptop. Most high-end gamer laptop in present time usually come with at least dual core CPUs. Some time you&#8217;ll see quad core CPUs in some gamer laptop. CPU will determine how fast your [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>Central Processing Unit (CPU)</strong> is the processing part of the <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/2nd-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-central-processing-unit-cpu.html"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a>, or we can say it is the brain of your laptop. Most high-end <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/2nd-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-central-processing-unit-cpu.html"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a> in present time usually come with at least dual core CPUs. Some time you&#8217;ll see quad core CPUs in some <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/2nd-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-central-processing-unit-cpu.html"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a>. CPU will determine how fast your laptop can process data, so it is obviously another important part of your <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/2nd-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-central-processing-unit-cpu.html"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a>.</p>
<p>You would want to select the fastest processor speed that you can afford to your <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/2nd-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-central-processing-unit-cpu.html"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a> in order to get maximum performance from your <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/2nd-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-central-processing-unit-cpu.html"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a>. Your ultimate <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/2nd-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-central-processing-unit-cpu.html"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a> must be able to handle the latest 3D laptop games. You should make sure that your CPU will not freezing up in the middle of some extreme gaming action.<span id="more-23"></span></p>
<p>Therefore, the processor&#8217;s speed is the second important part of your <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/2nd-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-central-processing-unit-cpu.html"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a>. It does all your laptop data processing and applications. </p>
<p>Since it handle most of the work, it is usually the most expensive part of your <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/2nd-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-central-processing-unit-cpu.html"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a>.</p>
<h2>Intel or AMD is better for gamer laptop</h2>
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<p>Usually <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/2nd-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-central-processing-unit-cpu.html"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a> come with CPU from Intel or AMD. But which one will fit your <a href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/2nd-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-central-processing-unit-cpu.html"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a>? And dual core or quad core is best for gaming? Quad core is faster but if you are under a budget, dual core is also able to play lastest 3D games. AMD come with cheaper CPU than Intel and also give more processing power compare to money you pay. Intel CPU chipsets are better but ultimately you have a budget so go for an AMD dual core.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that you should get the fastest processor speed that you can afford.</p>
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		<title>1st Things to Consider Before Buying a Gamer Laptop: Graphics Card</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><a title="Gamer Laptop" href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/1st-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-graphics-card.html"><strong>Gamer Laptop</strong></a> become more powerful as laptop technology offers new platforms and increasing performance. In the past days when a serious PC gamer would laugh at the idea of using a laptop for gaming. While gaming PCs still hold a slight advantage over <a title="Gamer Laptop" href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/1st-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-graphics-card.html"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a> (mainly when it comes to upgrade), <a title="Gamer Laptop" href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/1st-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-graphics-card.html"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a> now offer a alternative, even for hardcore PC gamers. If your next computer purchase is a laptop you should consider or these five major factors or components to get the best <a title="Gamer Laptop" href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/1st-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-graphics-card.html"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a>. These five features are: Graphics Card, Processor, RAM, Hard Drive and Display.<span id="more-3"></span></p>
<h2>Graphics Card for Gamer Laptop</h2>
<div style="margin: 10px; float: right;"><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&#038;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fs%3Fie%3DUTF8%26redirect%3Dtrue%26ref%255F%3Dsr%255Fnr%255Fn%255F2%26bbn%3D11006331%26qid%3D1255262254%26rnid%3D11006331%26rh%3Dn%253A468642%252Cn%253A%252111846801%252Cn%253A229575%252Cn%253A11006331%252Cn%253A11006361&#038;tag=gaming-laptop-20&#038;linkCode=ur2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957" title="Racing Games"><img title="Gamer Laptop, Racing Games" src="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/gamer-laptop-racing-games.jpg" alt="Gamer Laptop, Racing Games"></a></div>
<p>The major part of a <strong><a title="Gamer Laptop" href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/1st-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-graphics-card.html">gamer laptop</a></strong> is the Graphics Card. You want a high-end Graphics card with dedicated RAM to take care all the latest video games. Integrating graphics simply won&#8217;t be able to process all the complex features of modern 3-D games. Most top branded or high-end <a title="Gamer Laptop" href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/1st-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-graphics-card.html"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a> now have two or more Graphics Cards working together in CrossFire or SLI (Scalable Link Interface) to give premium handling power. You should also check to see if your new gaming system has at least 256MB of video memory as this will help with the smooth running of your games.</p>
<h2>Most Gamer Laptop use the latest NVIDIA or ATI GPUs</h2>
<p>Graphics Chipset which are highly rated by gamer are ATI Mobility Radeon 9700, ATI&#8217;s Mobility FireGL V3200 or NVIDIA GeForce Go 7800 GTX.</p>
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<p>ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 is a high quality Graphics Card or VPU (Visual Processing Unit) present in next generation <a title="Gamer Laptop" href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/1st-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-graphics-card.html"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a>. This will give you higher performance at a lower power level, which save battery power. It also makes your <strong><a title="Gamer Laptop" href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/1st-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-graphics-card.html">gamer laptop</a></strong> capable of many functions such as 3D games, wide-screen HDTV, dynamic presentations, mobile video editing studio and graphic processor.</p>
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<p>For NVIDIA <a title="Gamer Laptop" href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/1st-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-graphics-card.html"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a> graphics card, NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GX2 would be best the choice with new dual-GPU card that support 1GB of graphics processing power. This 1GB GPU is the same as putting two 512MB cards together through SLI technology.</p>
<p>Many <strong><a title="Gamer Laptop" href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/1st-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-graphics-card.html">gamer laptop</a></strong> now come with integrated graphics, where components interact and are sometimes shared, especially memory. If you want a <a title="Gamer Laptop" href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/1st-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-graphics-card.html"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a> for 3D games, you should check the amount of video RAM, which is the memory that is dedicated to graphic or video applications. Other common graphic chipset for <a title="Gamer Laptop" href="http://www.laptop4gamer.com/gamer-laptop-guide/1st-things-to-consider-before-buying-a-gamer-laptop-graphics-card.html"><strong>gamer laptop</strong></a> are STMicro, 3D Labs, Matrox, Trident S3 and SIS.</p>
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